Students

Jo3 Grundy
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Students

Post by Jo3 Grundy »

Why are students not protesting over their situation? You could normally count on a student to spot an injustice - not now it seems.

They have the motive, the t3chnology and the time - so why arent they playing their traditional revolutionary part?

jwills
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Post by jwills »

Yeh I've been encouraging them on Twitter they've had the sharp end of this. Poor old unis and private accom providers were last in line for state aid so govt let them go back and then they were herded like cattle. Complete joke.

Why are the lib dems not against lockdown? Surely they're missing a trick? Or is the liberal in their name one of those paradoxes?

Splatt
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Post by Splatt »

Students aren't in one place together to do anything. They've all been send home and charged for the privilege.

Forget students, nobody is protecting now. Its winter, the weather is bad.
Public order policing LOVE bad weather as no matter what the reason from anti-social behaviour to protests, nobody turns up.

Expect more to happen late spring if we get decent weather.

bradw4
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Post by bradw4 »

Splatt wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:41 pm Students aren't in one place together to do anything. They've all been send home and charged for the privilege.
This is such an outrageous example of the way in which students have been mistreated this past year. It beggars belief that they've acquiesced with barely a murmur.

hachibunga
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Post by hachibunga »

In essence, their ability to delay gratification has been subverted. All of the things that would have met their basic human needs prior to the year 2000 have been replaced with counterfeits. Had government taken away the things in the real world that met these needs prior to 2000 with no pacifier to distract, of course they'd have rebelled.

Unfortunately (although they'd argue fortunately), all of them now have laptops, smartphones, and Silicon Valley. You'll find pacifiers for all basic human needs contained within these devices. Social connection (facebook, skype etc.), validation (instagram etc.) intimacy (porn), community (echo chambers), excitement and adventure (video games). We used to find meaning in building status within our community by being useful, now we find meaning in making others feel envious by selectively manipulating and inflating aspects of our appearance and personality (through feigned virtue, image enhancement, even plastic surgery) on social media.

On top of that, our values have slowly been replaced with junk values. Our national pride and identity has been replaced with "we are the nice people". You know what happens to people whose core value is being "nice"? They get victimised and consumed by predators. Of which there are many in this world. And we are a particularly delicious meal for them, for they hate us, and want to see us destroyed.

The boomers and each subsequent generations have also been ratcheting up on the ole' narcissism scale too, thanks to corporate subversion of the psyche for profit, and loss of religion. And narcissists are the easiest of people to manipulate, if you understand them. All you have to do is flatter them, praise them, extol their virtue. Corporations know this well, narcissistic youth are the gift that keep on giving.

Coupled with a relentless propaganda campaign from the government this last year to increase "perceived threat" (the exact words of SAGE), it's no surprise at all that those offering the least resistance to all of this are a narcissistic generation who value nothing more than their own safety, blinded by the naïve optimism of youth, and with no real life experience.

My heart breaks for the lives they're to expect as "adults". I say "adults" because adults are actualised mature people, who when living in community, can deal with just about anything life throws at them. Concentration camps, attempts at extermination even. But few of this generation will reach true adulthood, or have the opportunity to experience real community as our ancestors knew it. There is no community in this country any longer, just atomised individuals feigning community through electronic devices.

A quick word on community ... you only have community when people genuinely need one another. What corporations and government have been doing for ages now is selling us products that remove the need we have for one another (see second paragraph) by replacing them with counterfeits. I include the NHS and government welfare squarely in this category also - just look at how people callously treat their parents in old age, operating under the false assumption that the nanny state can fulfil the role children would for elderly parents.

They do this precisely because, if you can sell them something they need, you have a product that will always have a market. Or if you can give them something they need with no effort on their part, eventually they'll be unable to provide for themselves or their community, and they'll forever be in need of you - indebted to you - reliant on you. The only problem is, when people live without real community, they become deathly sick, first spiritually, then physically.

And so the current generation of students are destined to exist in a perpetual state of immaturity, forever bound to the tyrannical teat of the eternal all giving parents... the corporation, and the state. And as you'll probably have noticed, the pushback you see from the students doesn't resemble that of previous generations - young adults in community standing up for their rights, but rather, they more closely resemble the narcissistic outbursts of the spoiled only child.

I'm sorry.

miahoneybee
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Post by miahoneybee »

Hachibunga sadly I agree with your post. Its been happening before our very eyes. " the world has gone mad" has been said for years by those awake enough to witness it all. This started off slowly but over recent years encouraged by every government has picked up pace and is now blatant.
Once in education even those who played truant and shunned much of their schooling came out better educated than many of the generation now with these laughable degrees.
Social interaction has consisted of Likes and dislikes on social media for a great achievement of finding the best sandwich shop and what doris the dog does when you are out 😉I could go on..
As for the elderly abandoned years ago to end up on a conveyor belt called a care home and disregarded as past their usefulness and sell by date. The government and cronies have found the solution to that problem.....

Speedstick
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Post by Speedstick »

Great post hachibunga and l totally agree with you Miahoneybee.
The biggest problem here is the youth of today have been conditioned to accept suffocating group think as normal and acceptable, from infancy. Today's youth have grown up with digital technology all around them, and these Silicon Valley tech firms have been conditioning them in this group think throughout their lives.
Furthermore they have been over vaccinated, over medicated, and over diagnosed with every ailment in the encyclopedia, by modern day science, and hence been conditioned to be hypochondriacs, and are thus terrified of the virus, despite having hardly any need to be.

sunjor
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Post by sunjor »

jwills wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:27 pm Yeh I've been encouraging them on Twitter they've had the sharp end of this. Poor old unis and private accom providers were last in line for state aid so govt let them go back and then they were herded like cattle. Complete joke.

Why are the lib dems not against lockdown? Surely they're missing a trick? Or is the liberal in their name one of those paradoxes?
I've been wondering the same about the libdems, how can they say they care about the underprivileged in society and yet allow this situation to go unchallenged.

sunjor
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Post by sunjor »

How much of the "perpetual state of immaturity" should be blamed on parents for being over protective and not allowing their offspring to grow mentally, removing all sources of risk, always being available at the end of a mobile to "sort out any problems" rather than letting them get on with it and develop individual resilience?

Jo3 Grundy
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Post by Jo3 Grundy »

As the father of A level and 2nd year University students, I say get ready. .... they're not all as portrayed here. They are itching to get out.

Students have been confined to their homes and online schooling. They have sacrificed their freedom to protect the vulnerable (perceived to be their parents)
But as the 50+ receive their vaccinations, and as cases and deaths fall, they won't go on making those sacrifices. Nor will they need to.

I expect Easter to be a trigger. The rules will still exist but the reasons for the lockdown won't. I can foresee mass disobedience. Especially if the weather is good.

The next phase of the pandemic will be few cases from the over 50s. Positive tests will therefore be from the young who suffer disproportionately from the lockdown but not from the disease. I expect they will (rightly) refuse testing (expect more 'surge' testing). With few new cases and hospital admissions, the government will be struggling for an excuse to continue with restrictions.

More protests....


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