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Re: MSM hatred by sceptics?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 12:19 am
by funtimes
thinksaboutit wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:56 am
miahoneybee wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 8:05 pm The msm dont deserve even a look as they are all full of bs..
:roll:
What's your alternative?
You have lots of alternatives. MSM is like McDonalds it appears everywhere and has enough money behind the brand to get its name out in every way possible but, you dont have to eat there. It sure is probably the most popular fast food chain in the world but it doesnt mean it is the only food you can eat.

Lots of independent/alt media sources out there and many of them with several decades of experience behind them, particularly the pioneers of this area of news reporting. Its just that people have got wind of these sources recently because they feel compelled to seek contrasting perspectives due to how little things make sense. Most of these sources have been around for a very long time though and not just for COVID-19. Some going back to the late nineties and dawn of the millenium. Its not as much of a niche market as people think. Its actually a significant portion of news consumed hence why the establishment has funded its own intelligence apparatus to the tune of MILLIONS to counter these sources.

What is the most hilarious about all this is the fact many are citizen journalists. Just people off the street reporting the news as it happens. They are not protected behind gated communities with private armies and corporate support. Some are mainstream journalists turned alt media journalists after experiencing first hand the biases and corruption in MSM. Most dont have fancy qualifications and private schooling, although some do. For the most part these are just your average people who setup a website one day or did videos on YT and became a hit. And yet the establishment fears average people so much they have to counter their articles.

Thats like you reporting on a copper beating up a loud mouthed youth in the town center, recording it and then publishing it along with correlated stats and relevant factual information and the establishment seeking to target you like you were an enemy nation state with its own multi million pound propaganda machine.

Lots of alternatives exist. You are visiting one good example now. Lockdown Sceptics is what would you call an alternative news source. Alternative meaning it counters mainstream coverage with contrasting information (verifiable most importantly) in order to attempt to challenge a bias present in a particular covering of events.

Re: MSM hatred by sceptics?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 4:06 am
by Illimitible
Sir Gus wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:03 pm
thinksaboutit wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:29 am Many on here constantly berate the Mainstream Media, meaning all TV news channels and newspapers.

What is the reason for this?
What is the alternative?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Dear oh dear....

Absolutely. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: MSM hatred by sceptics?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:25 am
by thinksaboutit
funtimes wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 12:19 am
thinksaboutit wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:56 am
miahoneybee wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 8:05 pm The msm dont deserve even a look as they are all full of bs..
:roll:
What's your alternative?

Lots of alternatives exist. You are visiting one good example now. Lockdown Sceptics is what would you call an alternative news source. Alternative meaning it counters mainstream coverage with contrasting information (verifiable most importantly) in order to attempt to challenge a bias present in a particular covering of events.
You mean swap a source that doesn't agree with you for one that does.

Re: MSM hatred by sceptics?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:10 am
by RichardTechnik
funtimes wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 12:19 am
thinksaboutit wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:56 am
miahoneybee wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 8:05 pm The msm dont deserve even a look as they are all full of bs..
:roll:
What's your alternative?
You have lots of alternatives. MSM is like McDonalds it appears everywhere and has enough money behind the brand to get its name out in every way possible but, you dont have to eat there. It sure is probably the most popular fast food chain in the world but it doesnt mean it is the only food you can eat.

Lots of independent/alt media sources out there and many of them with several decades of experience behind them, particularly the pioneers of this area of news reporting. Its just that people have got wind of these sources recently because they feel compelled to seek contrasting perspectives due to how little things make sense. Most of these sources have been around for a very long time though and not just for COVID-19. Some going back to the late nineties and dawn of the millenium. Its not as much of a niche market as people think. Its actually a significant portion of news consumed hence why the establishment has funded its own intelligence apparatus to the tune of MILLIONS to counter these sources.

What is the most hilarious about all this is the fact many are citizen journalists. Just people off the street reporting the news as it happens. They are not protected behind gated communities with private armies and corporate support. Some are mainstream journalists turned alt media journalists after experiencing first hand the biases and corruption in MSM. Most dont have fancy qualifications and private schooling, although some do. For the most part these are just your average people who setup a website one day or did videos on YT and became a hit. And yet the establishment fears average people so much they have to counter their articles.

Thats like you reporting on a copper beating up a loud mouthed youth in the town center, recording it and then publishing it along with correlated stats and relevant factual information and the establishment seeking to target you like you were an enemy nation state with its own multi million pound propaganda machine.

Lots of alternatives exist. You are visiting one good example now. Lockdown Sceptics is what would you call an alternative news source. Alternative meaning it counters mainstream coverage with contrasting information (verifiable most importantly) in order to attempt to challenge a bias present in a particular covering of events.
Yes, that the way I see it funtimes. It might be difficult to verify all the counter information, just as it is for the MSM information. Some of those visiting alternatives know enough about what is being said, to know it is largely truthful. Similarly those same, know enough about what is being said in most MSM outlets is largely distortion or untruthful.

Re: MSM hatred by sceptics?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:42 am
by jmc
thinksaboutit wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 8:25 am
funtimes wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 12:19 am
thinksaboutit wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:56 am

What's your alternative?

Lots of alternatives exist. You are visiting one good example now. Lockdown Sceptics is what would you call an alternative news source. Alternative meaning it counters mainstream coverage with contrasting information (verifiable most importantly) in order to attempt to challenge a bias present in a particular covering of events.
You mean swap a source that doesn't agree with you for one that does.
Nope. Swap sources that tell very deliberate lies (many many examples over the last few decades) for sources that provide a very diverse range of information and opinions. Usually very easy to check and confirm or dismiss.

It just like buying a used car. Who would you rather buy a used car from. A professional salesman who knows every trick in the book to manipulate and more than willing to tell outright lies to make the sale. Or a private party who knows none of those tricks and who is very easy to see though if they try anything dishonest.

So you can keep your used car salesmen news sources, I'll stick to the private party sellers of opinions and news. Precisely because I have known far too many people over the years who worked in the media business. Some of them, not that many, I might trust with my wallet. For a few minutes. After I have counted all the money in it first.