Ivermectin

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fon
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Splatt wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:42 pm
People would be better spending their time designing and implementing an actual trial meeting first world standards and then getting it peer reviewed and published than self-user hosting a google website and registering a domain.
Well the problem before, as I understand, is that ivermectin was too good, to the control group was invariably switched to it when it got sick on grounds of ethics, it's hard to get past that.But obviously is create a shit storm, it's too goo to complete a trial, I should imagine that gets spoken about in medical circles, if even I have heard that. But it explain why we see the self-user hosting a google website and registering a domain ....
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But now the control group can be switched a new alternative - Inhaled budesonide . So perhaps ivermectin will get a shake?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanr ... 0/fulltext




then there is this
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1


Ivermectin was associated with reduced inflammatory markers (C-Reactive Protein, d-dimer and ferritin) and faster viral clearance by PCR. Viral clearance was treatment dose- and duration-dependent. In six randomized trials of moderate or severe infection, there was a 75% reduction in mortality (Relative Risk=0.25 [95%CI 0.12-0.52]; p=0.0002); 14/650 (2.1%) deaths on ivermectin; 57/597 (9.5%) deaths in controls) with favorable clinical recovery and reduced hospitalization. Many studies included were not peer reviewed and meta-analyses are prone to confounding issues. Ivermectin should be validated in larger, appropriately controlled randomized trials before the results are sufficient for review by regulatory authorities.


just saying.

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Freeman Exiled
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Even if Ivermectin is effective, because its not profitable enough, or politically beneficial they will try to block it.

https://c19early.com
Various links at top of page giving access to different treatments. i.e VitD, FLV, HCQ, with agrgreation of studies and links to papers in each section.
https://c19ivermectin.com

https://journals.lww.com/americantherap ... the.4.aspx
Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

https://ivmmeta.com/
Covid Analysis (Preprint) (meta analysis)
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 52 studies
• 98% of the 52 studies to date report positive effects (25 statistically significant in isolation). Random effects meta-analysis for early treatment and pooled effects shows an 81% reduction, RR 0.19 [0.09-0.39], and prophylactic use shows 85% improvement, RR 0.15 [0.09-0.25]. Mortality results show 76% lower mortality, RR 0.24 [0.14-0.42] for all treatment delays, and 84% lower, RR 0.16 [0.04-0.63] for early treatment.

Bear in mind that most of this Pro-Ivermectin is coming from https://covid19criticalcare.com/about/
FLCCC Alliance. ( Not associated with frontline doctors of america)

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectious ... id19/90552
What's Behind the Ivermectin-for-COVID Buzz?

However they do have the support of Satoshi Omura, 2015 Nobel Laureate for Medicine, who invented/ discovered Ivermectin.
http://jja-contents.wdc-jp.com/pdf/JJA7 ... _44-95.pdf
Global trends in clinical studies of ivermectin in COVID-19
Morimasa Yagisawa, Ph.D. Patrick J. Foster, M.D.,Hideaki Hanaki, Ph.D.
and Satoshi Ōmura, Ph.D

But to get it used in some parts of the world,USA, you need a lawyer
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 32875.html
"Ralph Lorigo is the lawyer who now has won three court orders forcing New York hospitals to administer Ivermectin to dying patients. Incredibly, these three hospitals and their lawyers fought against the patients, arguing they did not have the right to receive the drug despite a valid prescription written by their doctors. In essence, the argument was that they did not have the right to try a potentially life-saving medication.

In each of the three cases, the New York State Supreme Court Justices sided with the patient, and in each of the three cases, the patients made near-miraculous recoveries after the Ivermectin was given. In each case, these patients were in the Intensive Care Unit on ventilators, unable to breathe on their own, and universally, after the drug was given, they rapidly improved and were able to breathe on their own"

Unless you are in India.
https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/s ... 38226.html
"This is being seen in several states of the nation including Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra. Dr Surya Kant Tripathi, in a conversation with Financial Express has revealed that the drug has been in use for over nine months now without major side effects being reported.

He was one of the many experts from India who had submitted a white paper on Ivermectin last year to WHO, emphasising that the drug was seen to reduce the replication rate of the novel coronavirus by a thousand times. "

And even billy goats has taken an interest...
https://trialsitenews.com/bill-and-meli ... -19-trial/

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I am not a medic or scientist but have just read this report on Ivermectin and would appreciate it if anyone with more knowledge would take the time to read it and give an opinion:
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/05/ ... -covid-19/

I refuse to allow myself, at this point, to go down some of the more deep conspiracy theory routes and still settle for incompetence and not wanting to appear total idiots for the way things have progressed, but I really can't understand why Ivermectin which has apparently been around for 40 years and has no real downsides wouldn't be tried on people who are seriously ill and likely to die, what have they got to lose? I felt the same re Vitamin D, it may not have an effect but it might and without causing harm so what it the problem? Apart that is from big pharma not making any money out of it.
Really appreciate any views as I am feeling more and more desperate as the days go on.

1984
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What opinion do you want ?
The evidence for Ivermectin and other meds is compelling
Nothing in the mainstream management and reporting of this contageous illness phenomenon makes any sense. You are being lied to. Make of that what you will

miahoneybee
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Money sunjor..follow the money..they are not going to promote anything that's cheap with any health benefit...that's what they have to lose..money..the experimental vaccines need to be pushed at all times..
I have never believed its governments incompetence and I still dont..
Name me one bit of propoganda that advised how to look after your health naturally against the rona.?

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If you are using complete international organisations to use national state apparatus to create a market for something without a natural market, you don't promote competition. Pharmaceuticals company have a record of removing safe and effective, cheap, treatments and replacing them with expensive new wonder products and using fear engendered via the media to promote demand. If you are dealing with toxic people, the best predictor of future behaviour, is their past behaviour.

sunjor
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miahoneybee wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 3:19 pm Money sunjor..follow the money..they are not going to promote anything that's cheap with any health benefit...that's what they have to lose..money..the experimental vaccines need to be pushed at all times..
I have never believed its governments incompetence and I still dont..
Name me one bit of propoganda that advised how to look after your health naturally against the rona.?
I know exactly what you are saying miahoneybee, nothing from government on improving health etc, they only reason I can come too is the money one but how is it that no-one questions this surely there are some medics/doctors with a conscience who must be aware of Ivermectin or even high dose Vitamin D, these treatments would not harm anyone so what would be the downside surely they are not all so brain washed?

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This provides some insight into what is occurring in the US:

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/brave-do ... ldxxd.html

This also provides insight into the production of scientific representations:

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/perspect ... 8ERO4.html

This too:

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/reiner-f ... Ce2GL.html

Corporate interests influence the public sphere. What are the conditions required to establish an institution? How do you exercise your will in the world?

miahoneybee
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The doctors were using it and patients were benefitting and improving within hrs but guess what those using it were threatened ( surprise surprise ) then suddenly it was off the shelves ( now available) along with the other drugs ( cheap ) doctors used ..
It's all about the experimental vaccines and genocide..nothing about saving us ...
Plenty of imminent scientists and doctors have called the sham and the lies up..they are censored and threatened with Being struck off and silenced..
Do your research away from the msm and look for alternative sites that speak the truth..
:D

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