Ivermectin

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Speedstick
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Sterling work here by Miahoneybee and Nobody in highlighting the scam and corruption behind this nightmare.
Those responsible for this wrong doing and this in collaboration of the same have to be brought to justice.

fon
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thinksaboutit wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:36 pm I've seen mention of ivermectin as a "game changer" for covid treatment on these forums.

Is there any substance to this?
yes, in my opinion, and there is an enormous effort being made by the medical establishment to turn a blind eye in case ivermecton disrupts the vaccination prgrammes. For historical reasons, the medical establishment is committed to vaccination programs, it believe vaccination (where possible) is the only legitimate way to deal with novel viruses. This is a religious conviction, or even stronger than that. It is not evil, merely misguided. It is sad that cheap generic medicine is being overlooked, ivermectin is an anti-viral. It is well worth listening to "Tess Lawrie". Here is John Campbell interviewing Tess Lawrie. John Campbell regards ivermectin as a benefit for mankind. He is surprised at the length of time this is taking, which he calls 'inertia' and like trying to steer an oil tanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

Campbell is even more unequivocal is this film, reporting as a prophylxis ivermectin cuts chance of getting covid19 by 83%, according to authors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv30g7TKVM&t=632s

So I don't know, but it's funny.

fon
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thinksaboutit wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:36 pm I've seen mention of ivermectin as a "game changer" for covid treatment on these forums.

Is there any substance to this?
yes, in my opinion, and there is an enormous effort being made by the medical establishment to turn a blind eye in case ivermecton disrupts the vaccination prgrammes. For historical reasons, the medical establishment is committed to vaccination programs, it believe vaccination (where possible) is the only legitimate way to deal with novel viruses. This is a religious conviction, or even stronger than that. It is not evil, merely misguided. It is sad that cheap generic medicine is being overlooked, ivermectin is an anti-viral. It is well worth listening to "Tess Lawrie". Here is John Campbell interviewing Tess Lawrie. John Campbell regards ivermectin as a benefit for mankind. He is surprised at the length of time this is taking, which he calls 'inertia' and like trying to steer an oil tanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

Campbell is even more unequivocal is this film, reporting as a prophylxis ivermectin cuts chance of getting covid19 by 83%, according to authors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv30g7TKVM&t=632s

So I don't know, but it's funny.

sunjor
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I've just come across this group https://bird-group.org
who have template letters for MP's and Doctors on their site, sorry if its been posted before but it was new to me.

thinksaboutit
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fon wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 8:17 pm
thinksaboutit wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:36 pm I've seen mention of ivermectin as a "game changer" for covid treatment on these forums.

Is there any substance to this?
yes, in my opinion, and there is an enormous effort being made by the medical establishment to turn a blind eye in case ivermecton disrupts the vaccination prgrammes. For historical reasons, the medical establishment is committed to vaccination programs, it believe vaccination (where possible) is the only legitimate way to deal with novel viruses. This is a religious conviction, or even stronger than that. It is not evil, merely misguided. It is sad that cheap generic medicine is being overlooked, ivermectin is an anti-viral. It is well worth listening to "Tess Lawrie". Here is John Campbell interviewing Tess Lawrie. John Campbell regards ivermectin as a benefit for mankind. He is surprised at the length of time this is taking, which he calls 'inertia' and like trying to steer an oil tanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

Campbell is even more unequivocal is this film, reporting as a prophylxis ivermectin cuts chance of getting covid19 by 83%, according to authors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv30g7TKVM&t=632s

So I don't know, but it's funny.
You should read the paper he is referring to. It is a long way from a clinical trial.
Self-selecting participants, not blind, not randomised, non-even groups. It is only a vague experiment.

Didn't see Campbell commenting on this.

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MikeAustin
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sunjor wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 1:22 pm I've just come across this group https://bird-group.org
who have template letters for MP's and Doctors on their site, sorry if its been posted before but it was new to me.
At the Bristol WWD rally on Thursday, we were fortunate to have Dr Tess Lawrie talk to us about Ivermection. She mentioned bird-group.org and is interviewed here.

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Splatt wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:15 pm Latest one out today:-

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... DY.twitter
Key Points
Question What is the effect of ivermectin on duration of symptoms in adults with mild COVID-19?

Findings In this randomized clinical trial that included 476 patients, the duration of symptoms was not significantly different for patients who received a 5-day course of ivermectin compared with placebo (median time to resolution of symptoms, 10 vs 12 days; hazard ratio for resolution of symptoms, 1.07).

Meaning The findings do not support the use of ivermectin for treatment of mild COVID-19, although larger trials may be needed to understand effects on other clinically relevant outcomes.
Yeah, flying the flag for those gold standard "studies":
https://osf.io/u7ewz/

thinksaboutit
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Read the position of Ivermectin's manufacturer on its us for covid.

Somewhat opposes the impact of all those weak studies, that prove nothing.

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/

thinksaboutit
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fon wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 8:17 pm
thinksaboutit wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:36 pm I've seen mention of ivermectin as a "game changer" for covid treatment on these forums.

Is there any substance to this?
yes, in my opinion, and there is an enormous effort being made by the medical establishment to turn a blind eye in case ivermecton disrupts the vaccination prgrammes. For historical reasons, the medical establishment is committed to vaccination programs, it believe vaccination (where possible) is the only legitimate way to deal with novel viruses. This is a religious conviction, or even stronger than that. It is not evil, merely misguided. It is sad that cheap generic medicine is being overlooked, ivermectin is an anti-viral. It is well worth listening to "Tess Lawrie". Here is John Campbell interviewing Tess Lawrie. John Campbell regards ivermectin as a benefit for mankind. He is surprised at the length of time this is taking, which he calls 'inertia' and like trying to steer an oil tanker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYF8bnmdQfY

Campbell is even more unequivocal is this film, reporting as a prophylxis ivermectin cuts chance of getting covid19 by 83%, according to authors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv30g7TKVM&t=632s

So I don't know, but it's funny.
Perhaps Campbell should consider Merck's view on the subject, since they make Ivermectin.
While he seems plausible, he isn't looking into the subject properly. He's just another vlogger...

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statem ... -pandemic/

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