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'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:34 pm
by PowerCorrupts
Extract: Steven Hotze, M.D.:
' The so-called COVID-19 “vaccine” is not a vaccine at all. It is an experimental gene therapy. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) gives the definition of the term vaccine on its website, [Click Here To View].

A vaccine is a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease. Immunity is the protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

This so-called COVID-19 “vaccine” does not provide the individuals who receive the vaccine with immunity to COVID-19, nor does it prevent the transmission of this disease. That is why it is a deceptive trade practice, under 15 U.S. Code, Section 41 of the Federal Trade Commission, for pharmaceutical companies who are producing this experimental gene therapy, to claim that this is a vaccine.'
https://principia-scientific.com/danger ... st+News%29
also:
https://crtxnews.com/march-16-2021-newsletter/

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:29 pm
by Splatt
What utter nonsense.

Every single one of those claims is verifiably false.

mRNA is not "gene therapy". That's written by someone lacking an A-level biology knowledge with no idea how protein synthesis works.
And the AZ (and other) vaccines aren't even mRNA.

A vaccine stimulates the immune system. It provides protection to but not guaranteed immunity.

Using that batshit definition, most of our vaccines are not vaccines which is clearly nonsense.

And only a tiny minority of vaccines prevent transmission.

If you go by the insanity from this idiot, its likely mankind only had 1 or 2 vaccines for any disease in history.

Its a hatchet job copy/paste where he deliberately misses out ALL the context.

Anyone using "gene therapy" here should be immediately outright as an utter crank as they either have no knowledge at all or are deliberately lying.

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:12 am
by MikeAustin
Splatt wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:29 pm mRNA is not "gene therapy".
It seems that the term 'gene-based' may be used and is perhaps mistaken for 'gene therapy'. Also there is a distinction between DNA and mRNA vaccines.

The following is taken from "CORONA FALSE ALARM? Facts and Figures" by Dr. Karina Reiss & Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi.
4. Gene-based vaccines. In these cases, the viral gene is delivered to the cell either as DNA inserted into a plasmid or as mRNA that is directly translated into protein following cell uptake.
A great potential danger of DNA-based vaccines is the integration of plasmid DNA into the cell genome. Insertional mutagenesis occurs rarely but can become a realistic danger when the number of events is very large, i.e. as in mass vaccination of a population. If insertion occurs in cells of the reproductive system, the altered genetic information will be transmitted from mother to child. Other dangers of DNA vaccines are production of anti-DNA antibodies and autoimmune reactions.
Safety concerns linked to mRNA vaccines include systemic inflammation and potential toxic effects.
A further immense danger looms that applies equally to mRNA-based coronavirus vaccines. At some time during or after production of the viral spike, waste products of the protein must be expected to become exposed on the surface of targeted cells. The majority of healthy individuals have killer lymphocytes that recognise these viral products. It is inevitable that autoimmune attacks will be mounted against the cells. Where, when, and with which effects this might occur is entirely unknown. But the prospects are simply terrifying.
Yet, hundreds of volunteers who were never informed of these unavoidable risks have already received injections of DNA and mRNA vaccines encoding the spike protein of the virus, and many more are soon to follow. No gene-based vaccine has even received approval for human use, and the present coronavirus vaccines have not undergone preclinical testing as normally required by international regulations. Germany, a country whose populace widely rejects genetic manipulation of food and opposes animal experiments, now stands at the forefront of these genetic experiments on humans. Laws and safety regulations have been bypassed in a manner that would, under normal circumstances, never be possible. Is this perhaps why the government still declares an "epidemic situation of national concern" to exist - in the absence of serious new infections? For then the new German Infection Protection Act empowers the government to make exceptions to the provisions of the Medicinal Products Act, the medical device regulations, and regulations on occupational safety and health. And this has given the green light to the fast-track vaccine development project.
But the authors wonder whether the Infection Protection Act can go so far as to permit genetic experiments be conducted on humans who have not been informed of the potential dangers.
Feel free to savage it. I have no idea one way or the other. To effectively eliminate misunderstanding, its origins need to be identified.

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:10 am
by Speedstick
Very good piece you have posted here Mike.
The question surely has to be why are auto-immune diseases rising at between 3 and 9 percent per annum, why are today's children almost ubiquitously struck down with one or more allergies.
Is this due to vaccination programmes, , is it over medicalisation, is it environmental, or other unknown?
The fact is medical science does not know the answer?
If it doesn't know the answer, then how can medical scientists ethically persist with programmes that could be the cause.
Could it be we are not saving lives or suffering, but just moving the type of suffering from A to B and changing the names on death certificates, not saving lives!!!!

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:43 pm
by Splatt
Allergies are most likely a result of our general obsession with cleanliness now especially at a young age.

Children aren't exposed to natural pathogens at the ages where their immune system is starting to from up, learn and adapt.
They're simply not conditioned in a way to provide a normal, measured response to pathogens and foreign entities.

The fact lower development countries and areas seem to suffer less from the outbreak of allergies hints at that too.

In short, we're too "clean" at an early age now.

But again mRNA has nothing to do with "gene therapy". It does not and cannot interfere with a host cells DNA makeup or transcription in any way, shape or form.

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:56 am
by MikeAustin
Splatt wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:43 pm But again mRNA has nothing to do with "gene therapy".
I am trying really hard to 'square the circle' here, Splatt. Could you please say if, in your opinion, the description of it as "gene-based" has any validity and/or could be a source of confusion.

If you repeat "mRNA has nothing to do with "gene therapy"" again, I shall jump screaming off the Clifton Suspension Bridge, predictably dying of covid when I hit the ground.

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:23 am
by Splatt
Not really. Its deliberately misleading.

Rather than directly inject a spike protein or wrap it in a blob of goo we're just getting cells to make it for us instead.

The hosts cell DNA is completely unchanged, its genes are completely unchanged, it continues doing whatever it does completely as normal.

All the mRNA vaccines are doing is borrowing the final assembly "factory" at the end of the chain and going "heres another bit of recipe, make this for me while you're at it".

Gene therapy is the deliberate process of altering the expression of genes, usually by making permanent alterations to a host cells DNA. That alteration then stays (hopefully) in daughter cells each time it replicates and divides continuing the change.
Absolutely nothing in common with these vaccines.

Theres likely some genuine confusion about terms but most of it ive seen by the anti-crowd is deliberate misuse of phrases.

Misunderstanding because most have no idea of how the process of protein synthesis works, nor do they know the differences between RNA,mRNA and all the other types, what they do and where they fit.
Its all "genetics" to them (well ok, molecular biology really).
Generally its a deliberate attempt to discredit and scare by misusing terms they dont understand themselves and know the target audience wont understand either.

Yes its more complex than that but im not typing out anything more thorough at 4.30am...

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:52 am
by Speedstick
If what you are saying is true Splatt that children's allergies are a result of over sanitisation, and obsessional cleaning, with which actually l have agreement with you, then this past year has been an absolute disaster for children, over sanitisation everywhere, and denied meeting and playing with their friends and hence allowing them exposure to pathogens which are essential for their immune system development.
This is a theme l have believed all along, we are saving elderly lives by making our children sick.
You really couldn't make it up. It's like ill-treating and shackling a young puppy all to keep a 2O year old dog, with multiple ailments alive.
It's just complete madness.
However Splatt l still also believe over reliance on medications is also creating the sharp rise in auto immune disease, the fact is l don't know, you don't know and the whole of medical science doesn't know, and yet it claims vaccines are safe. Please define safe????

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:55 am
by fon
PowerCorrupts wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:34 pm
A vaccine is a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease. Immunity is the protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose / By Any Other Name would smell as sweet.

What’s in a name? That which we call a vaccine / By Any Other Name would defeat the virus.

Re: 'Vaccine' is experimental Gene Therapy: Steven Hotze, M.D.

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:42 pm
by Speedstick
Fon l think by now the rest of us get it, you are pro vaccination or a government agent or both?
But why why why must you continue time and time again to keep pushing this agenda. Fon with great respect you are not going to change my mind, firstly l have no fear of death, secondly l am disgustingly healthy so l don't need it, thirdly l wish to remain on the right side of history, fourthly it's in contravention of my human rights and my flipping choice!!!!